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[DD] How Mur and Ursula Edit
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“Editing is where you leave the craft behind and start thinking like a business.” – Mur Lafferty
“I am the person with the hat.” – Ursula Vernon
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In this final episode of season six of Ditch Diggers, Mur Lafferty and Ursula Vernon dive deep into the world of editing. From the trials and tribulations of editing passes to the nuances of hat confidence, Mur and Ursula share their personal experiences and industry insights.
Mur shares her recent adventures at World Fantasy Con, including a surprise upgrade experience, while Ursula reflects on the significance of hats in her identity as a writer.
Highlights include:
- The stages and emotional journey of editing a manuscript
- Hat confidence and its unexpected perks
- World Fantasy Con experiences and the allure of fabulous hats
- The intricacies of balancing writing with editing and personal life
- Community alternatives to NaNoWriMo
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- Ursula Vernon/T. Kingfisher
- Mur Lafferty
- Mur on Focusmate!
- Mur on Twitter, Instagram, Youtube
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