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[DD] Weeping Bunkers and Writing Woes: Surviving the Creative Chaos
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“Sometimes the best way to survive is to turn everything into hilarity.” – Ursula Vernon
In this episode of DITCH DIGGERS, hosts Mur Lafferty and Ursula Vernon share their experiences navigating the chaotic world of writing and marketing. From discussing the emotional rollercoaster of meeting deadlines to the challenges of book marketing, they explore the ups and downs of being a writer in today’s landscape.
Highlights include:
(05:32) Ursula has too many author copies. She’s written nearly 50 books
(12:30) Let’s talk about marketing for SwordHeart
(24:09) A lot of your writing happened when you were doing chemo
(31:34) Mur wants to talk about newsletters. They constantly vex her.
(33:00) When Mur left mailchimp, she didn’t export her mailing list
(44:58) It’s called decision fatigue for a reason
(54:26) If you do get the desire to create during this time, do it
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Links:
Evergreen Links:
- Ursula Vernon/T. Kingfisher
- Mur Lafferty
- Mur on Focusmate!
- Mur on Instagram, Youtube
- Newsletter, The Hot Mic
- Support via Patreon!
- Theme song by Devo Spice


Transcript

Transcript
With what we hope is an eventual glimmer of hope amidst the chaos, Evil Mur sets you on a path for the new year. Whether you’re contemplating quitting or seeking motivation to continue, this episode offers a fresh perspective on the writing journey.

We touch on where to get inspiration, and mention Rusty’s Retirement and the modern Greek mythology series, KAOS. This episode is a reminder to embrace creativity and the messy process that comes with it.