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[DD] Dusty Hats and Burnt Out Pokemon Trainers

“The point of a planner is to make your life easier, not be a source of guilt and stress.”
– Ursula Vernon (T. Kingfisher)


Ditch Diggers Season 11 logo featuring ursula illustrated Mur Lafferty and Ursula Vernon are back and dive into the chaotic world of writing! We talk about everything from  the trials of managing multiple projects to the absurdities of planner systems. (And talk about a bunch of options we’ve tried!)

Mur shares her recent experiences with her latest book, while Ursula discusses her creative process and the challenges of staying organized as a writer.

We also explore the joys (and pitfalls) of social media and how it impacts our creative lives. 

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November 9, 2025 | Season 11 Ep 8 | murverse.com
“Dusty Hats and Burnt Out Pokemon Trainers” by Mur Lafferty and Ursula Vernon
is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0